A reply to Mr. Peter Stanislaw
Mr. Peter said the following about my blog on George Bush and some comments I had made!
Thanks for the commentary on a blog that sees little save for blog spam and my father's angry-white-guy rantings, but George Bush has done more for the proliferation of terror than the eradication of it. Those who claim this resource consolidation/market expansion/petrodollar assurance war is a War On Terror don't believe it for a minute, so that makes you and your ilk dupes, doesn't it? At this point in my world, support for BushCo can only be seen as a character flaw. No offense, Mr. Rajesh.The world needs solutions to problems that don't involve mass murder, and your cavalier acceptance of BushCo's methodology, as well as your reverence for the man himself, tends to make me love Ms. Roy all the more.Do you reject collectivism out of hand? Are all socialists misguided? Is there nothing to be gleaned from their continued striving to put the wretched of the earth before profits? Isn't social equity a desirable goal?Of course it is, in my world.
My reply to him is this!
I think Mr. Peter Stanislaw has got it wrong. It’s both about the world as he sees it and of course about me.
The point was about anti G.B’s protests in India, the fact and fiction behind it.
Coming to George Bush, you must first understand that I am not an American and hence do not view these contemporary actions of your president through an American prism and perspective. As an American (I am note sure about your race, lineage, affiliations etc) you are entitled to view the past and present that might be a product of your upbringing, your local history and many more things. There is nothing wrong in that. But my views are not to be taken in your context.
Talking about all those values, I am of the opinion that if there was indeed any body who did conceive of a world that as per your words would not involve mass murder, prejudice, and imperialistic overbearing on small nations, it was Mahatma Gandhi. He was one living example that thought and did the same thing, which was non-violence or Ahimsa in Hindi.
World has always run by persons who exerted power. Not the intellectual variety but the brutal one. Such power mongers, you like it or not were at the helm atleast in the most part of the history.
There were moderators of course. These were flowers who bloomed once in a while and told the world that we humans are certainly capable of better things. A few examples apart from Mahatma Gandhi were Thomas Paine, Voltaire and many more (sorry that my examples are all men as we had made sure for so long that women do not speak out). They made the difference by showing how this world and society can be run by adopting methods that would cause the least injury to fellow humans. Not only that, such men made every one know that there are some inalienable rights every human should posses and that those should be give ample opportunity to be exhibited.
This result of all this is the world we now live in. The last half a century has exposed the folly of what we were doing all along, like the kings and bishops thinking that they had inalienable rights to say how the whole thing should work.
The last decade and a half fine-tuned the whole process by exposing those who claimed to have exposed the king run countries and had ending up molding themselves on the same lines. I am talking about the communist run countries whose legacies have been thoroughly discredited.
Now we are at a stage of realizing that decency and dignity of human life could never be compromised for anything else, specifically in the process of creating and distributing wealth, running societies and imparting education.
Now lets see how this is not done or how specifically you find out a way to stop such indignity happening.
Men or not God and this world is not a place where justice prevails. Hence its up to the courageous individual to defy and establish the truth. Galileo might have recanted before the papal commission yet he became one of the pioneers in rubbishing the Church’s claim on its self-declared divinity. Thomas Paine wrote his rights of men and Gandhi his theory of non-violence.
The courageous thus spawned more of their kind in return they did their best in reducing the ill effects of authoritarianism or in many cases the authoritarianism itself.
One should not forget that slave mentality was a part and parcel of ancient populations. It’s the chief, the priest and the medicine man that were required to think. Hence an original from any society became a rarity. He was either branded as a heretic and driven off or if he claims a critical mass of followers adds a bit of rationality to that culture or society in which this had happened. Newton, Darwin, Karl Marx are few examples of such.
Compared to every century the rationalism of humans has been increasing. Europe doesn’t invent witches and burn them any more and hospitals are places where humans go in case of sickness and not to an exorcist.
It doesn’t any more take a Voltaire or Paine to say what’s cruel and what’s not. Any sensible one in this century can do that. Earlier the standards of the men that preached morality seemed very high. This obviously was because the average citizens view and place in the society was very low. These men of courage can but stand only in high pedestals.
As I just said now, the situation is lot lot different now.
That’s exactly the whole point!
Bush preaches morality although he his considered by most as a cheap politician. It might be true. His politics may be cheap and so might be his actions. But that does not in any way makes it wrong for a person to talk about world peace and human rights. If any one of us does it might look the same. Being an American who knows the background fully, you are in no position to accept this. In my case I have divorced myself from this fact and looked only into the aspects and results of things done. It’s now a different picture for me!
The other point is also so obvious. Saddam Hussein, Kim-Il-Sung and other such persons are also of a unique breed in this century but in a negative sense. A Mullah run country where the single biggest export after oil is only ideological indoctrination, is also one that is unique in the same negative sense.
Here we see a world population, which for the first time in its history has tuned itself to a degree of mental stability by freeing to certain extent from religious bigotry and racial prejudice. Yes, maturity as an aspect had always been there. The world population has been trading and doing things meaning which maturity had been in place in such constructive work but not in looking at why other humans are so.
All along the Christians had the opinion that other religions were the Devils manifestation (some still do but that’s a different subject and requires a new write up). Muslims bettered them by undertaking direct action against others. Eugenics was considered as a proof of white man’s superiority and Darwinism was almost perverted by Herbert Spencer to something called Social Darwinism, just to prove that it was the superior race’s right to destroy the inferior.
In this current age, most of us now do not prescribe to such nonsense since rational thought process has certainly taken root and modern education and science has entrenched deeply.
Yet a few animals like the Assad clan and Kim-Il-Sung are still standing. It’s surprising that people should praise these creatures as leaders. Just a closer look will tell one that those unfortunate people actually do not praise their leader but are paralyzed with fear into not acting against. If a Gandhi or a Thomas Paine had evolved in these societies most certainly they would have been thrown to the lions and this is no exaggeration.
Looking at this broadly, then who else would restrain such depots?
UN has a very limited capacity as every one knows. The next immediate neighbor that gets affected is the next natural candidate that has the moral right to hit back. This also cannot happen, as they too might be scared. If I am the neighbor and yet do not have the resources to hit back, I start looking at some one who can do that as a savior.
Here again the point to be noted is that branding one as a despot is not done on somebody whom you just don’t like. Coming to a conclusion about ones authoritarian characteristics or that a rule is despotic is a result of clear evidence and analysis. If a leader gases a thousand of his own people and there is clear evidence to prove that then he is a one to be despised.
Going to the previous point, given a minimum number of capable retaliating or should I say correcting factors, a fair minded man or woman looks at the most possible lesser evil that would do the job. Clearly a democratic governments action on such matter is more desirable than any other alternative.
Since we do not see the possibility of God, who theoretically should be faultless and whose action can be anything but injustice, acting, we might need some one, the next best possible or should I say the least undemocratic to carry the task forward.
If the question is legitimacy, which no doubt is not, the formers action is extremely culpable than the latter. That’s exactly where a sane person makes a decision.
In Iraq’s case, the illegitimate act of invading a country was a result of what I call as the nil alternatives to Godly action. For an atheist it should be defined as the result of nil alternatives to a reasonable just reaction by the victims themselves.
The ball doesn’t stop here. The alternative action provider is more vulnerable than the ousted or to be ousted depot, not by his insecurity but by the inevitability of the voting power of people like you! This cannot be better. The ouster can be ousted any time through thoroughly democratic means.
The question of reverence to Bush or any of the leaders that are democratically elected and functioning doesn’t even arise, as a democratic leader’s actions are not his alone in the first place!
An upheaval in a despot ruled state, in most cases, could be caused only by the despot. If you are familiar with Soviet history, it was Stalin that moved the engine. Men like Beria and Yezhov were simply his creatures and hence the spokes but the poor population on whom such upheavals were loaded were mere cogs.
I think I have said enough about certain basic things that drive this world. Please understand that this is not Eden or some equivalent place where one can see things in black and white. Earth has always been a tough place for us since the time we started of in the African savannas. The last two thousand years of recorded history has suggested that it had been really a tough task for maintaining justice by various cultures and societies. The problem was that, the justice as such was interpreted differently once you cross every hundred miles. Only in this century and last were some agreements reached on what justice is. It will take maybe another century or two before injustice is also defined along with the qualities that should be possessed by the Injustice ender!
Till then Bush’s and others are needed to keep the Husseins in check!
Talking about your personnel beliefs about collectivism, we are again talking about process that generally are against the basic human nature. I am certainly not hinting that Humans are basically animals and hence would continue in that fashion and that altruism is all bull.
The problem with ideologies is that there is no set ideology that is there in this world that is inherent. As Richard Dawkins says, our universe is a place which is heartless, pitless and without any feeling. Given the situation, pronouncing of a thought process that seeks to impose that and this, ends up with non-conformities and hence deviations and finally to failure. Yes capitalism is also a method and pronouncement. But the alternatives laid down such as socialism, communism, swadeshism (Ghandian socialism) are a bit more dogmatic than plain simple capitalism.
Capitalism being the most stupid and simple, draws the people towards it more than the others and hence looks like the least difficult way for some one to make a living. Collectivism, again, requires lot of mental resilience, sacrifice and withdrawal. Except for the kibbutz of Israelis and many of the religious groups that run communities, collectivism could only be of a forced nature and hence doomed to fail. Hence a difficult proposition. I love to see the world where empathy and hence self sacrifice shall rule. I also love to see Santa Claus dropping down to give Christmas presents to all children of the world. A sane person will know both of the above shall never happen.
A misguided socialist is another misnomer. Somebody thinking about utopia is certainly not misguided. But the problem is how? The how again takes the shape of ones whims and ends up as perversion. Peronism, Trotskyism etc dint go anywhere. Here I am talking about the economics of the socialist. If its about the other aspects in the country where socialists tend have interests, it’s a different discussion altogether.
As for me, I do not in any way subscribe to any of the other interests of Bush in USA, namely creation science nonsense, anti abortion stance etc, which will make one typical white, southern American think that I am a leftist.
World is an imperfect place and the perfection we see is only relative. The least perfect when it goes towards destruction, becomes the imperfection and hence needs to be replaced, not by the perfect, which actually doesn’t exist, but by the least imperfect!